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33 minutes ago
33 minutes ago
37 min
This episode looks at what Jesus models in selecting the twelve and what that means for disciple making today. Brett Maddocks, Allen Cason, and Jim Morrow focus on the difference between mass ministry and intentional investment in a few, with an emphasis on prayer, discernment, and long-term multiplication.We discuss why selection is not favoritism, how to choose people to pour into, and why discipleship is more about formation than information. The conversation also gets practical about different disciple-making models, permission to say no, and what to do if you realize you need someone to disciple you first.
Key topics
- In this episode: Jesus’ selection of the twelve in Luke 6:12 to 13 and the significance of his all-night prayer before choosing
- Brett, Allen, and Jim discuss how Scripture often compresses time, using Paul’s timeline as an example
- The group contrasts modern urgency and efficiency with the slower work of forming disciples
- Jim shares a quote from Alan Hirsch on the “strange and wonderful math” of multiplication in the gospel
- The conversation highlights that discipleship is not information transfer but the formation of Christ in a person
- Allen argues that Jesus consistently worked with fewer people, not more, even while ministering to crowds
- The team discusses the tension some church members feel when leaders choose a few people to invest in deeply
- Brett and Allen stress that selection is not about creating tiers of Christians, but about wisdom and multiplication
- Practical criteria are given for choosing disciples: faithful, available, intentional, teachable, and humble
- The hosts emphasize that prayer should come first, and that God is already at work in the lives of both the discipler and the disciple
- Brett explains why it helps to give people permission to say no when invited into a discipleship relationship
- The group talks about flexible models for discipleship, including one-on-one mentoring, triads, and small groups
- Allen shares that sometimes the right next step is not discipling others, but asking someone to disciple you
- Brett gives examples of older and younger leaders asking to be discipled, showing that disciple making is kingdom work across age and denomination
Timestamps
00:00 - Welcome, Diet Coke debate, and introducing the question of choosing disciples
02:01 - Why Jesus choosing the twelve is about disciple making, not predestination
03:08 - Luke 6 and Jesus praying all night before selecting the twelve
04:58 - How scripture compresses time and why that matters for reading the Gospels
07:05 - Why discipleship resists quick wins and instant results
08:33 - A cookie analogy for slow, intentional formation
09:17 - Why crowd ministry matters, but few-to-few multiplication matters more
10:23 - Alan Hirsch on the multiplication math of the gospel
12:28 - Why discipleship is the main engine of the church, not a side department
13:08 - God’s pattern of working through the few
14:52 - What Jesus looked for when choosing disciples
15:22 - Faithful, available, teachable, intentional, and humble
16:16 - Why selecting a few does not create spiritual hierarchy
17:58 - Thinking ten years ahead in disciple making
20:33 - How to start praying for people to invest in
21:56 - A real story of someone showing up after prayer
22:58 - Group models versus one on one mentoring
24:22 - Giving people permission to say no
26:05 - Learning by doing instead of waiting for the perfect system
27:33 - Don’t get stuck on methods before you know who God is sending
28:39 - Fear as a major obstacle to disciple making
29:49 - Choosing flexible plans instead of rigid programs
31:25 - What if you have never been discipled yourself?
32:21 - Asking someone to disciple you
33:10 - An 80 year old asking to be discipled
34:07 - A pastor asking another pastor for discipleship
35:07 - Asking the question may spark a movement
36:06 - Great Commission and Great Commandment together
36:22 - Purpose, assignment, and the call to make disciples
36:37 - Final encouragement: pray first and keep asking who God is putting around you
Notable quotes
- “Discipleship is not information transfer, but the formation of Christ in a person.”
- “No choice is still a choice.”
- “Our purpose is to love God and love one another. Our assignment is to make disciples.”
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email.
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, husbands, fathers, pastors, disciple makers, and all-around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks

Aug 17, 2026
Aug 17, 2026
48 min
The Podechesis Podcast returns to explore what it truly means to make disciples, combining theology and practical tools. They trace Wesleyan roots, discuss Jesus' method and Robert Coleman’s Master Plan of Evangelism, and introduce the eight steps of intentional disciple-making.
This episode frames the series’ goal: move beyond mere conversions to lifelong formation by cultivating patient, relational, and repeatable practices in local churches.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email.
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, husbands, fathers, pastors, disciple makers, and all-around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks

Oct 21, 2025
Oct 21, 2025
42 min
The Podechesis Boys are back at it and this time they are talking about a biblical case for making disciple makers. They will make the case that disciple making is not something that was invented in the New Testament. In fact, the roots of what discipleship and disciple making is can be seen in the book of Gensis in the Garden of Eden.
This is part one of a mini-series on disciple making and why we believe it to be so important today.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email.
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, disciple makers and all-around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks

Sep 8, 2025
Sep 8, 2025
55 min
To paraphrase a famous American poet, “Don’t call it a comeback. We’ve been here for years.”
The Podechesis boys are back! And we have kicked things off with the very best dude we know, Tony Miltenberger.
Tony is a lot of things. He’s a coach, consultant, pastor, disciple maker, podcaster, husband, father, friend, and author. In this episode, we chat with Tony about his new book, Wisdom in the Wound: How God Uses Your Past to Shape Who You’re Becoming.
You can pre-order the book here, or check out more information about the book and Tony here.
You will also want to check out Tony’s Follow 2 Lead Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email.
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, disciple makers and all-around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks

May 13, 2024
May 13, 2024
43 min
Let’s go to church, y’all!
In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys begin a conversation on the church as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
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Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
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About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
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Mar 14, 2024
Mar 14, 2024
43 min
Let’s go to church, y’all!
In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys begin a conversation on the church as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
Important Links
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
Post Production by Stanton Creative, LLC.
About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
Need help on your next project? Then book your consultation now!

Feb 28, 2024
Feb 28, 2024
36 min
“Be holy as your Heavenly Father is holy."
How does God’s grace lead us to perfection and glory? In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys continue a conversation on salvation as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
Spirit & Truth
The Podechesis Podcast is a proud member of the Spirit & Truth Podcast Network.
Spirit & Truth is a movement of Wesleyan-minded Christians seeking to awaken and equip the 21st-century church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to share the Gospel and make disciples of Jesus Christ. We long to see a new movement of Christians who are empowered by the Spirit, rooted in the truth, and mobilized for the mission.
For more information and resources, visit www.spiritandtruth.life
Find out more information about upcoming Spirit and Truth conferences at www.spiritandtruth.life/conferences.
Click here to learn more about the upcoming conference in Ohio.
Important Links
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
Post Production by Stanton Creative, LLC.
About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
Need help on your next project? Then book your consultation now!

Feb 12, 2024
Feb 12, 2024
39 min
“Repent and believe the Gospel.”
How does God’s grace lead us to repentance? In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys continue a conversation on salvation as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
Spirit & Truth
The Podechesis Podcast is a proud member of the Spirit & Truth Podcast Network.
Spirit & Truth is a movement of Wesleyan-minded Christians seeking to awaken and equip the 21st-century church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to share the Gospel and make disciples of Jesus Christ. We long to see a new movement of Christians who are empowered by the Spirit, rooted in the truth, and mobilized for the mission.
For more information and resources, visit www.spiritandtruth.life
Find out more information about upcoming Spirit and Truth conferences at www.spiritandtruth.life/conferences.
Click here to learn more about the upcoming conference in Ohio.
Important Links
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
Post Production by Stanton Creative, LLC.
About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
Need help on your next project? Then book your consultation now!

Jan 29, 2024
Jan 29, 2024
38 min
What does it mean to “be saved?” How does Jesus save? In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys start a conversation on salvation as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
Spirit & Truth
The Podechesis Podcast is a proud member of the Spirit & Truth Podcast Network.
Spirit & Truth is a movement of Wesleyan-minded Christians seeking to awaken and equip the 21st-century church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to share the Gospel and make disciples of Jesus Christ. We long to see a new movement of Christians who are empowered by the Spirit, rooted in the truth, and mobilized for the mission.
For more information and resources, visit www.spiritandtruth.life
Find out more information about upcoming Spirit and Truth conferences at www.spiritandtruth.life/conferences.
Click here to learn more about the upcoming conferences in Alabama, Texas, and Ohio.
Important Links
“And Can it Be That I Should Gain"
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
Post Production by Stanton Creative, LLC.
About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
Need help on your next project? Then book your consultation now!

Dec 4, 2023
Dec 4, 2023
49 min
In this episode of The Podechesis Podcast, the guys continue discussing the doctrine of revelation (the theological principle) as referenced in The Faith Once Delivered document published by the John Wesley Institute.
Listen and Subscribe to Podechesis on: Apple (Leave a 5-Star Review!!!), Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Google, YouTube, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, TuneIn, Listen Notes, and Deezer.
Questions? Send us an email or leave a voicemail.
Voicemail: (404) 635-6679
Spirit & Truth
The Podechesis Podcast is a proud member of the Spirit & Truth Podcast Network.
Spirit & Truth is a movement of Wesleyan-minded Christians seeking to awaken and equip the 21st-century church, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to share the Gospel and make disciples of Jesus Christ. We long to see a new movement of Christians who are empowered by the Spirit, rooted in the truth, and mobilized for the mission.
For more information and resources visit www.spiritandtruth.life
Click here to learn more about the upcoming conferences in Alabama, Texas, and Ohio.
Important Links
Episode Credits:
Episode written, produced, and hosted by Brett Maddocks, Jim Morrow, and Allen Cason.
Allen, Brett, and Jim are three Christ-followers, fathers, pastors, and all around decent fellows who love Jesus, his church, and the historic faith. You can reach us individually via Twitter.
@casonpreach
@jimmorrow
@bmaddocks
Post Production by Stanton Creative, LLC.
About Stanton Creative
Stanton Creative seeks to serve by providing inspiration & support for fellow creatives through a variety of resources, including podcast and video editing.
But it’s not just WHAT we do that excites us…it’s WHY.
As followers of Jesus Christ, we strive to honor God in everything we do. This includes using our creativity to ascribe glory to our Creator. But our mission doesn’t stop there! Our goal is to empower other creatives to utilize their gifts, talents, and imaginations to glorify God through their creations.
Need help on your next project? Then book your consultation now!
